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« on: June 08, 2009, 04:59:38 PM »
Okay so I was texting my friend earlier and she sent me a message that was like 3 pages long and for some reason it split the texts into 3 separate texts and there were little question marks at the beginning and end of the texts. She is Verizon too. Every other phone I've had with Verizon would just make it one long text. As long as it was coming from another Verizon person. Does the enV Touch not do that anymore? She says her phone is screwed up but  I don't know. Any one know?
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« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2009, 06:39:17 PM »
Not all Verizon phones send and receive the messages as one long message.  One of my friends has a Samsung smartphone that gets all my longer messages broken up and I get that stupid message back telling me about the limitation of 160 characters, blah blah blah.
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« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2009, 07:14:02 PM »
Most phones on a CDMA network can only send/receive 160 characters at a time. 160 is a random number that someone pulled out of a hat to limit characters to and its just stuck.

We had a long discussion about this on crackberry.com when people started complaining of the 160 limit. Consider yourself lucky, on the storm you could only type an SMS 160 characters long. It wouldnt break it up for you, so you had to create a new SMS.
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« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2009, 01:32:35 PM »
IT must just be my friends phone. I sent a text of like 2 pages from my mom's phone to mine and it came through as one long message. Hmmm. Odd. Sorry about this topic.
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« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2010, 04:46:26 PM »
I seem to be having the same problem. Verizon to Verizon texts too. Except this also seems to trigger my phones alert for texts even when its set to vibrate. Have you noticed this as well?
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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2010, 03:51:18 AM »
If you know they can receive pix messages and you can send them under your calling plan, they allow 1,000 characters per page per text. Just type your message and then send it without a picture.
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« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2010, 08:28:29 PM »
VZW non-smartphone to VZW non-smartphone = 1120 max character

VZW non-smartphone to VZW smartphone = 1120 max character, split into 160 character messages

VZW non-smartphone to any non-VZW phone = 1120 max character, split into 160 character messages.  ((It used to be the max was the 160 for 1 SMS, however, recently VZW started allowing SMS's to non-VZW be 160+.))

For MMS (pic/vid) you can include up to 1000 characters in the text field, and I think it's 20 characters for the title field.
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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2010, 05:57:53 PM »
Quote from: QuadCoreGeek on February 27, 2010, 08:28:29 PM
VZW non-smartphone to any non-VZW phone = 1120 max character, split into 160 character messages.  ((It used to be the max was the 160 for 1 SMS, however, recently VZW started allowing SMS's to non-VZW be 160+.))

Can this change be confirmed by anyone else?  I have not heard anyone able to text from a Verizon non-smartphone to a non-VZW phone with anything more than 160 characters without using MMS.

Is this a change only to newer phones or has there been a change made in newer firmware?  Or did they simply start to allow the texts to go through in there entirety and lose the notification messages about the 160 character limitation?
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« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2010, 07:00:23 PM »
Quote from: e-T on February 28, 2010, 05:57:53 PM
Quote from: QuadCoreGeek on February 27, 2010, 08:28:29 PM
VZW non-smartphone to any non-VZW phone = 1120 max character, split into 160 character messages.  ((It used to be the max was the 160 for 1 SMS, however, recently VZW started allowing SMS's to non-VZW be 160+.))

Can this change be confirmed by anyone else?  I have not heard anyone able to text from a Verizon non-smartphone to a non-VZW phone with anything more than 160 characters without using MMS.

Is this a change only to newer phones or has there been a change made in newer firmware?  Or did they simply start to allow the texts to go through in there entirety and lose the notification messages about the 160 character limitation?

I received a text message from VZW informing me of this change, although I can't recall the date in which they were going to roll out the features.  Pretty much the ability was always there, VZW is just unlocking it.
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« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2010, 02:19:42 PM »
I've always been able to receive texts greater than 160 characters from non-VZW users, but whenever I sent them texts greater than 160 characters, I'd get the warning text from VZW that only the 1st 160 would be sent.  If VZW did remove this crippleware, then that's great.  Tonight or tomorrow, I'll try it out by texting more than 160 characters to a non-VZW user (or even my e-mail address) and see how that works.

QuadCoreGeek, thanks for posting that table, but you left out VZW smartphone to VZW smartphone.  I assume it also has a 1,120-character limit?
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« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2010, 03:32:41 PM »
Quote from: beowulf7 on March 01, 2010, 02:19:42 PM
I've always been able to receive texts greater than 160 characters from non-VZW users, but whenever I sent them texts greater than 160 characters, I'd get the warning text from VZW that only the 1st 160 would be sent.  If VZW did remove this crippleware, then that's great.  Tonight or tomorrow, I'll try it out by texting more than 160 characters to a non-VZW user (or even my e-mail address) and see how that works.

QuadCoreGeek, thanks for posting that table, but you left out VZW smartphone to VZW smartphone.  I assume it also has a 1,120-character limit?


The last time I owned a VZW smnartphone was the summer of 2006, so I honestly can't accurately report on VZW smartphone to VZW smartphone.

let us know how your 160+ text test works out!
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« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2010, 03:37:14 PM »
Quote from: e-T on February 28, 2010, 05:57:53 PM
Quote from: QuadCoreGeek on February 27, 2010, 08:28:29 PM
VZW non-smartphone to any non-VZW phone = 1120 max character, split into 160 character messages.  ((It used to be the max was the 160 for 1 SMS, however, recently VZW started allowing SMS's to non-VZW be 160+.))

Can this change be confirmed by anyone else?  I have not heard anyone able to text from a Verizon non-smartphone to a non-VZW phone with anything more than 160 characters without using MMS.

Is this a change only to newer phones or has there been a change made in newer firmware?  Or did they simply start to allow the texts to go through in there entirety and lose the notification messages about the 160 character limitation?

It is a change in the way VZW processes the outgoing messages. I can confirm that it works on the enV touch, voyager, and enV 3, and I'm pretty sure it does for all of Verizon's phones. I got the txt about it, and the change has been in effect since 2/19.
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« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2010, 06:05:55 PM »
Quote from: jeebz88 on March 01, 2010, 03:37:14 PM
Quote from: e-T on February 28, 2010, 05:57:53 PM
Quote from: QuadCoreGeek on February 27, 2010, 08:28:29 PM
VZW non-smartphone to any non-VZW phone = 1120 max character, split into 160 character messages.  ((It used to be the max was the 160 for 1 SMS, however, recently VZW started allowing SMS's to non-VZW be 160+.))

Can this change be confirmed by anyone else?  I have not heard anyone able to text from a Verizon non-smartphone to a non-VZW phone with anything more than 160 characters without using MMS.

Is this a change only to newer phones or has there been a change made in newer firmware?  Or did they simply start to allow the texts to go through in there entirety and lose the notification messages about the 160 character limitation?

It is a change in the way VZW processes the outgoing messages. I can confirm that it works on the enV touch, voyager, and enV 3, and I'm pretty sure it does for all of Verizon's phones. I got the txt about it, and the change has been in effect since 2/19.

sweeeeeeeeet!  i knew i was right :-)  i totally didnt imagine that text.  thanks for the confirmation.  for a moment there i was afraid I had imagined it all.  lol
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« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2010, 07:25:02 PM »
I looked into it further because my BB still has the 160 character limitation unless I use certain 3rd party apps to circumvent it. It's not a big deal for me to still have the limit because I have those apps but I'm happy to see that Verizon has finally joined the rest of the competition in how they handle lengthy SMS messages for most phones.

http://www.wayneschulz.com/2010/01/verizon-160-character-text-messaging-sms-limit-gone/
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« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2010, 11:23:49 AM »
It's great to see VZW striving to be a better and more open carrier.
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