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« on: July 25, 2009, 10:36:38 PM »

Alright I saw some comments about difficulty sending long text messages, and I did a search and didn't see this posted yet, so here's a little tip. As long as the person you are sending the text message to can receive pix messages, you can send them 1000 character text messages. Just create a new pix message, and under the text box type your message. You don't need to select a picture to send it. I've never tried this, but it even looks like you could type 1000 characters per slide, and send a message with multiple slides. Write them a short story if you'd like.
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« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2009, 03:56:55 PM »

How is this any different than sending a regular text message that allows you to type up to 160 characters 7 times?  It even says "1/7", "2/7", etc.  I haven't gone beyond 2 screens yet.  What the heck, maybe I'll give it a shot if I'm killing time standing in line. laugh
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« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2009, 04:03:21 PM »

Because you can't send a message over 160 characters to people on a different network.  The longer text messages only work for other Verizon customers.
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« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2009, 05:23:16 PM »

I've been able to send 1000 character text messages to people on other networks. Apparently, when embedded in a pix message, it is allowed. Don't ask me why. Maybe it saves it as an image. Try it and see if it works... I'm sure it will.
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« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2009, 05:35:30 PM »

That's not a SMS.  It's a MMS.  Beowulf7 was asking about the difference between using the picture message method to send long messages versus the multiple page that you will see when you type out a regular text message that goes longer than 160 characters and starts to show multiple pages up in the corner.
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« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2009, 10:25:05 AM »

That's not a SMS.  It's a MMS.  Beowulf7 was asking about the difference between using the picture message method to send long messages versus the multiple page that you will see when you type out a regular text message that goes longer than 160 characters and starts to show multiple pages up in the corner.
Thanks for the clarification, e-T.  So if the MMS works w/ all cellular providers.  But an extra long SMS (more than 160 characters) only works for other VZW recipients.  I know in the past when I've sent messages longer than 160 characters to people on another network, I get a text from VZW saying that they can't receive the extra long messages.  I wonder how or why VZW treats the sending of SMS vs. MMS differently, or maybe on the other network's end when receiving such messages.
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« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2009, 11:33:02 AM »

i get the verizon message for sending texts 160+ even if im sending to another verizon phone
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« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2009, 11:50:25 AM »

I wonder how or why VZW treats the sending of SMS vs. MMS differently, or maybe on the other network's end when receiving such messages.

SMS is packed differently than MMS when it's sent.  When you send an SMS that is longer than 160 characters, it is broken up by the system and technically uses the EMS, enhanced messaging service. But a MMS, just packs it all as one whole file that is transmitted to the recipient.  MMS are designed to carry larger amounts of information (pix/vids) so that allows for more space in the text field.  Verizon could allow you to send longer messages to other networks by using the EMS but they have chosen not to for whatever reason.  You have probably noticed in the past when one of your friends on another network (like Sprint) sent you an especially long message that you just received it as multiple text messages that said something like 1 of 2 or 1 of 3, etc.  That's because their network has the EMS set up for outside networks instead of only internally like VZW.  With VZW, they have set up the EMS to display as a single long message for many of their phones, instead of breaking it up first.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multimedia_Messaging_Service

i get the verizon message for sending texts 160+ even if im sending to another verizon phone

Not all of Verizon's phone's are set up to receive extended messages as a single message.  I have a friend that owns a Samsung smartphone on Verizon's network and every time I send long messages to her phone I get that message as well. It just depends on which phone the other Verizon person owns along with whether or not you have used any special formatting that their phone won't recognize.
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« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2009, 02:26:45 PM »

^ Thanks for the info., e-T.  That makes sense.  So MMS is really the preferred method to send an extra long message, in terms of efficiency.  But at least to other VZW customers, given that their phone supports it, one can just send the standard text message (SMS) and use 1/7, 2/7, etc.
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« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2009, 04:45:56 PM »

thanx et. would it be possible to block that number that they send the message from so that you wouldnt get it anymore?
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« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2009, 05:56:08 PM »

I highly doubt it.  The message that is sent when you send to another VZW phone that doesn't support EMS doesn't even come with any information for the "from" field.  And the message that you get when you send a message too long to someone on a different network comes from their "free VZW message" system that also includes alerts for your statement being ready for viewing and anything else related to your account that they need to send out to you.  It's unlikely that they would want customers to be able to prevent those messages from coming through.
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« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2009, 08:15:28 PM »

o i see. just a thought. theres alot vwz doesnt want us to do but we do anyways  Tongue
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« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2009, 08:23:01 PM »

That's true for things that are controlled locally by the phone.  But blocking calls/messages is controlled by their network so we can't really bypass those controls.
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« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2009, 09:26:18 PM »

hmm. i always thought you had the ability to block people calling you
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« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2009, 10:59:26 PM »

You can block people from calling you using Verizon's network.  You can't do it from your phone unless you set it to only allow calls from your contact list which isn't really a very good solution to anything since you would most liekly be missing out on important calls by doing that.
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